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	<title>Comments on: Flickr doesn&#8217;t believe in Web 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: QMZR</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>QMZR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what are they actually doing ... blocking referers?

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&amp;id=953
tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/ctjj2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what are they actually doing &#8230; blocking referers?</p>
<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&amp;id=953" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&amp;id=953</a><br />
tinyurl: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ctjj2" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ctjj2</a></p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be more in a gripe about having adsense removed, and you are now trying to make some big point here http://www.flickrlicio.us/2005/10/28/flickrlicious-is-now-ad-free/

&quot;&quot;FlickrLicio.us has NEVER made a single cent in profit. The ads that are on the site have not yielded a single cent in a check or deposit for the owner of the site. How can it be a commercial site if it hasnâ€™t made a single cent, and isnâ€™t selling anything from the site?&quot;

This is b**locks come on, if you weren&#039;t earning a cent from the site why:
-bother using them at all
-be so bothered that they are going

You were profitting from what is effectively hotlinking, others do it but that doesn&#039;t mean it is ok

Just get over it ffs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be more in a gripe about having adsense removed, and you are now trying to make some big point here <a href="http://www.flickrlicio.us/2005/10/28/flickrlicious-is-now-ad-free/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickrlicio.us/2005/10/28/flickrlicious-is-now-ad-free/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;FlickrLicio.us has NEVER made a single cent in profit. The ads that are on the site have not yielded a single cent in a check or deposit for the owner of the site. How can it be a commercial site if it hasnâ€™t made a single cent, and isnâ€™t selling anything from the site?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is b**locks come on, if you weren&#8217;t earning a cent from the site why:<br />
-bother using them at all<br />
-be so bothered that they are going</p>
<p>You were profitting from what is effectively hotlinking, others do it but that doesn&#8217;t mean it is ok</p>
<p>Just get over it ffs</p>
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		<title>By: azrasta</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>azrasta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I&#039;d rather that you don&#039;t call flickrbabes a competitor. I&#039;m not competing against anybody. But thanks anyway, you sent a lot of visitors to my site yesterday, and I guess this boost in traffic will be somehow permanent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I&#8217;d rather that you don&#8217;t call flickrbabes a competitor. I&#8217;m not competing against anybody. But thanks anyway, you sent a lot of visitors to my site yesterday, and I guess this boost in traffic will be somehow permanent.</p>
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		<title>By: cnb</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>cnb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run chicksnbreasts and I just wish flickr would have told me to pull the ads so I could keep the site going. The way it happened was weak, and I definitely didn&#039;t appreciate flickrlicious pointing fingers at me and the other sites mentioned. Good looking out Nick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run chicksnbreasts and I just wish flickr would have told me to pull the ads so I could keep the site going. The way it happened was weak, and I definitely didn&#8217;t appreciate flickrlicious pointing fingers at me and the other sites mentioned. Good looking out Nick!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what steps need to be taken to make Flickrlicio.us &quot;Flickr Aproved&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what steps need to be taken to make Flickrlicio.us &#8220;Flickr Aproved&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart Butterfield</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart Butterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick - I was going to comment on the Flickrlicious site, but I didn&#039;t see any way to leave comments there.

I&#039;m not sure what any of this has to do with social networking (??) or Web 2.0: it&#039;s pretty simple. In two parts:

(1) Flicklicious is a business. Flickr isn&#039;t around to serve businesses, but people - we&#039;re quite upfront about the &quot;for personal use&quot; thing.

(2) Each Flickrlicious page served ~2-4MB of photos from Flickr. It&#039;s also a popular site. That adds up to gigs and gigs and gigs of transfer a month. Good for Flickrlicious since it saves on bandwidth (and hosting) costs. But it&#039;s bad for Flickr and is an abuse of a system designed to help people get their photos out onto the rest of the web, and not lock them up in Flickr.

To be perfectly honest, we definitely don&#039;t like the T&amp;A or XXX angles and we don&#039;t want it associated with the Flickr brand, but that is definitely not the issue. The same thing would happen to an ad-based site serving Flickr photos about horses or sailboats or boogers.

Carry on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick &#8211; I was going to comment on the Flickrlicious site, but I didn&#8217;t see any way to leave comments there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what any of this has to do with social networking (??) or Web 2.0: it&#8217;s pretty simple. In two parts:</p>
<p>(1) Flicklicious is a business. Flickr isn&#8217;t around to serve businesses, but people &#8211; we&#8217;re quite upfront about the &#8220;for personal use&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>(2) Each Flickrlicious page served ~2-4MB of photos from Flickr. It&#8217;s also a popular site. That adds up to gigs and gigs and gigs of transfer a month. Good for Flickrlicious since it saves on bandwidth (and hosting) costs. But it&#8217;s bad for Flickr and is an abuse of a system designed to help people get their photos out onto the rest of the web, and not lock them up in Flickr.</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, we definitely don&#8217;t like the T&amp;A or XXX angles and we don&#8217;t want it associated with the Flickr brand, but that is definitely not the issue. The same thing would happen to an ad-based site serving Flickr photos about horses or sailboats or boogers.</p>
<p>Carry on!</p>
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		<title>By: Will Sisti's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Sisti's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;  Flickr to censor? &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection</title>
		<link>http://www.nickstarr.com/2005/10/27/flickr-doesnt-believe-in-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;  Nick Starr&#039;s FlickrLicio.us Banned From Flickr &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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